Letter to Abuse Team
Jun. 17th, 2005 12:05 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
enot06Hi –
I learned that over the past couple of days a number of prominent live journals in Russian have been suspended in response to 3d party reports of abuse.
Some of the authors of suspended journals are well known in Russia and publish their works in regular press (e.g. suspended users aculeata, tiphareth).
These are long-standing contributors who definitely add value to community. With the current Abuse Team decision, this unique and amazing Internet community that was formed over the course of 5 years will take a hard hit. Journals produced by gifted people with active social position and real talent for writing will no longer be part of lj life. The material accumulated over years will be lost if not for individuals but for community.
Almost all Russians (Russian by language, nationality doesn’t matter) have the tendency to talk politics from time to time - even those who routinely prefer to ramble about cooking, sex and kids.
There won’t ever be an end to abuse reports unless you change your policy and stop encouraging abuse from report abusers. Please be critical of abuse reports. Whoever reports abuse in cases like this one means no good. It’s an attempt to harm a very successful virtual community. Don’t allow to manipulate yourself.
I suggest you develop and publish LJ rules letting people freely express themselves in terms of content and form on all occasions with clearly defined exceptions (e.g. ban on child pornography). What is not mentioned in exceptions, is allowed. Let LiveJournal remain what it used to be – a platform for creativity, exciting social experiments and open communication.
Sincerely,
Name a.k.a. lj user enot, enot_lj2@yandex.ru
I learned that over the past couple of days a number of prominent live journals in Russian have been suspended in response to 3d party reports of abuse.
Some of the authors of suspended journals are well known in Russia and publish their works in regular press (e.g. suspended users aculeata, tiphareth).
These are long-standing contributors who definitely add value to community. With the current Abuse Team decision, this unique and amazing Internet community that was formed over the course of 5 years will take a hard hit. Journals produced by gifted people with active social position and real talent for writing will no longer be part of lj life. The material accumulated over years will be lost if not for individuals but for community.
Almost all Russians (Russian by language, nationality doesn’t matter) have the tendency to talk politics from time to time - even those who routinely prefer to ramble about cooking, sex and kids.
There won’t ever be an end to abuse reports unless you change your policy and stop encouraging abuse from report abusers. Please be critical of abuse reports. Whoever reports abuse in cases like this one means no good. It’s an attempt to harm a very successful virtual community. Don’t allow to manipulate yourself.
I suggest you develop and publish LJ rules letting people freely express themselves in terms of content and form on all occasions with clearly defined exceptions (e.g. ban on child pornography). What is not mentioned in exceptions, is allowed. Let LiveJournal remain what it used to be – a platform for creativity, exciting social experiments and open communication.
Sincerely,
Name a.k.a. lj user enot, enot_lj2@yandex.ru
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Date: 2005-06-17 07:33 pm (UTC)it seems that you are under a serious misunderstanding.
When the accounts were suspended the owners were asked to
remove the offensive entry, and in many cases a simple
change of wording was enough to restore compliance with
the terms of service. Those who out of principles refuse
"to cooperate with fascists" are free not to do so and
exercise their right "писать что угодно и как угодно"
in their own private domains or elsewhere.
A lot has been said about it recently, if you are interested
I can post here some of my favorite links for your convenience.
Or maybe other people will?
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Date: 2005-06-17 08:28 pm (UTC)It is funny that some of the lj-community unhappy with this development relates this to the desire of LJ owners to comply with the US laws. Russian laws - including the Constitution - are actually more restrictive w.r.t. freedom of expression. An attempt to comply to the Russian laws would probably close down much more life journals.
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Date: 2005-06-17 09:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-17 10:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-18 07:25 am (UTC)In one case it was a good friend who wasn't comfortable writing herself and ASKED me to write to them -- she was being harassed, trolled, and stalked and it got serious. I think the police were even involved at one point for her safety.
The other instance involved the posting of someone's e-mail address in a community where some political radicals disagreed with this person's political views posted in a profile on an outside site -- the poster specifically told everyone else in the community to send "gay porn" to the e-mail address (real mature, right?). This person didn't even have a LJ that anyone knew about, so they would have no idea how this all works, I just thought it was plain wrong and had to be stopped immediately. The "new" e-mail abue reporting system is all about weeding out things they don't want to bother with I think though.
And then on the other hand, ridiculous things like this happen that happened with your friends... argh.
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Date: 2005-06-18 03:31 pm (UTC)What I meant was that 3d party reported abuse by suspended users. The posts in question were not directed against other users. The posts that prompted the reports contained phrases like "Kill NATO". So reports were tageted against what people who report to AT consider improper content. But it shouldn't be up to them, it should be well defined in the TOS. What AT considers improper is not well defined. Also they don't read Russian so they just choose to trust rats.
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Date: 2005-06-18 04:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-18 04:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-18 05:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-18 10:52 pm (UTC)Privet,
Dima (kaledin@mccme.ru)
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Date: 2005-06-19 02:11 am (UTC)Content that incites violence against an individual, race, ethnicity, or orientation - "NATO" does not fall in any of these categories.
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Date: 2005-06-19 10:52 pm (UTC)and instead read the whole text of that entry.
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Date: 2005-06-20 04:22 am (UTC)About aculeata, if the reason of her suspension is indeed this, then I 100% agree with you,
and suggest you translate it into English and append to your new letters to the AT,
just in case they do not read Russian indeed.
But I remember there was another posting after that, much more violent and much less amusing.
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Date: 2005-06-21 03:17 pm (UTC)По поводу твоего отношения к вопросу: конформность - вообще удобное свойство, с ним легче и безопаснее жить не только в советской России тридцать лет назад, но всегда и везде.
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Date: 2005-06-22 02:12 am (UTC)Несомненно тоже талантливую, но - одну.
2. Если тебе дали speeding ticket при том что ты обычно едешь
медленно и десятки машин в это время ехали быстрее тебя -
don't try this line of defence in court.
3. Моего отношения к вопросу я собственно не высказывал,
ограничивался констатацией фактов, and let me keep it this way.